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Never heard of it. If the kit's got a pic of a Bugatti EB16 Veyron on the box, it's gotta be good. :roll: Hard telling. Polish is always a crap shoot and often a matter of personal preference.
 

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The 350z guys were talking abouts this. A couple of them really like it. Just not sure :?
 

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The system looks a lot like Zaino's, with the different components and their respective roles. What are the Z guys saying about it in comparison to Zaino?
 

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Not really seeing a whole lot in that thread about this product (as opposed to everything else that is mentiond). Again, it's all really personal preference. It's hard to judge unless you've tried it yourself. It's also really hard to imagine something is significatly better than Zaino, given that both you and I have experience with it and it makes the car look great (plus that pic of Doc Bonz's Vrickyard is amazing).

If I were to try anything different, it would be something with less reflectivity and more depth on my black FX. The reflectivity is really cool, but I hear a lot of people talking about deep luster on black (like what you get from a good carnuba) as opposed to so much reflectivity. I've been curious about Blackfire, but I've got a lot of Zaino hours on my car (just did another coat today) and lots let in the bottle, so I believe I'll be sticking with it a while.
 

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I have 12 layers of Zanio on, but the small scratches all over the car and water marks are killing me. I have tried everything do get them out, just not ready to clay bar again so soon.
 

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Mine's in pretty good shape, but you can always find something if you look close. I don't believe there's anything you wouldn't find on any other car, it's just that it shows so much more on black. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to keep black perfect is to never touch it (let alone drive it). It sure is pretty, but I'll never buy a black car again; too much time spent obsessing over the finish that could better be spent driving.
 

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Mine looks great at least 2 feet away. Then you can't see the marks or spots. Then again I'm probably the only one who notices. I dont regret getting a black car, it gets noticed. 8)
 

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Oh, it deffinitely gets noticed (esp. with the chrome 20s) and I don't regret that; I just obsess over it too much and get frustrated that it's pretty much impossible to get it perfect and keep it that way. Just going out and driving 15 miles to work gets a nice layer of dust on her ass. Then you gotta break out the duster which leaves waxy smudges if it's too hot or too humid, so then you have to haul out the Z6 and microfiber, but only if you're in the shade and the surface is cool enough or it'll dry too quickly and haze. Then you notice the fine layer of dust on the reast of the car that you didn't see before you made that clean spot... it's maddening, really. And to think, I used to be one of the "how come the owners of black G35s arent posting? 'Cause thier in the garage cleaning their cars!" types when I had my DG G35c. Suffered a momentary lapse of reason and look at me now. Anybody know a good therapist? :?
 

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Good therapy just to look at. :D
 

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Mine looks great at least 2 feet away. Then you can't see the marks or spots. Then again I'm probably the only one who notices. I dont regret getting a black car, it gets noticed. 8)
Sweet,

I'm assuming you're using Z5 and still seeing swirls? If so, maybe time to use 3M Swirl Remover with an orbital. Then re-Zaino. On the watermarks, have you tried diluted vinegar to remove them? Works like a cjarm.

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Mine's in pretty good shape, but you can always find something if you look close. I don't believe there's anything you wouldn't find on any other car, it's just that it shows so much more on black. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to keep black perfect is to never touch it (let alone drive it). It sure is pretty, but I'll never buy a black car again; too much time spent obsessing over the finish that could better be spent driving.
ditto. that's why i got rid of my black Vette.
 

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MustGoFastR said:
Mine's in pretty good shape, but you can always find something if you look close. I don't believe there's anything you wouldn't find on any other car, it's just that it shows so much more on black. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to keep black perfect is to never touch it (let alone drive it). It sure is pretty, but I'll never buy a black car again; too much time spent obsessing over the finish that could better be spent driving.
ditto. that's why i got rid of my black Vette.
I had several black cars before and my wife's is black also. Learned a lot about how to not to mess with black finish. My black FX is 3 months old and haven't waxed yet. Maybe I will try Zaino soon but am not interested in whole collection. I already have too many "beauty kits". At least Infiniti's black paint is better than MB's soft finish.
 

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I'm assuming you're using Z5 and still seeing swirls? If so, maybe time to use 3M Swirl Remover with an orbital. Then re-Zaino. On the watermarks, have you tried diluted vinegar to remove them? Works like a cjarm.

Use the z5 two or three times and a little better.

Tried the vinigar no change. I have come to conclusion that the water stains had to come from sitting on the dealer lot (in TX) and then just baking in the sun and are in the clear coat.

Tried that Drywash stuff, got some of the big water spots off but did not mix well with zanio. Ooops

Orbital buffer, not ready to do that :shock: I would screw that up, I just know it.

I will probably clay bar again the summer and try the vingar maybe again.

As long as use the Z6 spray it hides them alot. But I love this color too much and keeping it shiny is my goal. :D

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have you tried soaking a towel with 100% white vinegar and leaving it on the vehicle for an hour or so? (keep FX in shade, of course!). I had stubborn stains on my FX, too and the towel trick worked. Just a thought.
 

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Here is what I use to detail my cars:

1. Porter Cable 7424 random orbit polisher, very safe and effective for paint that is in good shape. Use it for minor defect removal, polishing for gloss, and final wax/sealant.

2. Now this one is for the serious detailer/diy person, a Porter Cable 7428 rotary buffer. This is equipment used by body shops and it is capable of doing tremendous damage in the hands of an inexperienced person. Tool is used to remove much more severe paint damage, including deep swirl marks, scratches, and water marks.

For minor swirls, PC7424 with a light cutting foam pad and 3M Swirl mark remover is sufficient. Deeper swirls and scratches (ones that could be felt with your finger nails) require a PC7428 rotary with a cutting pad and 3M Fine Cut compound. Please bear in mind that DEFECT REMOVAL MEANS CLEARCOAT/PAINT REMOVAL and it takes a lot of experience to do this properly. The combination of foam pads and compounds are almost endless to achieve this but it requires know-how and experience.

For regular polishing and waxing, a PC7424 is your best friend. It is fool-proof and very very safe to use due to the random orbit action minimizing heat generation. My personal choice for paint protection is Klasse, easy on/off with long lasting acrylic protection. The bottom line to achieving the ultimate shine is all about surface preparation and having the right tools. Note: Products mentioned above are my personal preference only, many equivalents are available.
 

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