[zigzag5555]

Hi all
I would like to wax my car. it is pretty new(one month) any suggestions for what kind of wax or polish to use? I was thinking Meguir's 3 step process.
1. Deep crystal cleaner
2. Polish
3. Wax
Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanx

 

[fxer]

Hi all
I would like to wax my car. it is pretty new(one month) any suggestions for what kind of wax or polish to use? I was thinking Meguir's 3 step process.
1. Deep crystal cleaner
2. Polish
3. Wax
Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanx

i am not much of a waxing dude myself, but most people on this site seem to be using some kind of zaino thingy. so i may have to try it out shortly once the weather stabilize and the rain stops.
i only wash the car since buying on 12/05/03

 

[dude009]

Synthetic polishes like Zaino have been destroying the wax manufacturers (like Mothers, Meguirs, etc) in recent national detailing studies.

Waxing preferences are like #holes, everyone's got one. Mine is http://www.zainobros.com

 

[bradical]

use zaino becuase

(1) you can layer it becuase its polymer based

(2) it lasts 3 times as long as wax

(3) its nearly opictally perfect and you can really see it as you add more coats

my 2 cents

 

[mushutofu]

Zaino the baby!

 

[johnmax]

Is there any comparo as far as Zaino vs Zymol? I have always used Zymol but this Zaino thing seems good.

 

[FXLENT]

If you want to spend all weekend waxing your car use Zaino. If you want to spend about 2.5 hours use Zymol.

Then put them side by side and see if you can guess which is which.

 

[mushutofu]

Zaino does not take all weekend. With the ZFX it only takes 1-2 hours depending on how many coats you want.
1'st time Zaino may take a little bit because you need to apply Z1 but not that much longer.

 

[particlefx]

What does Zymol cost? I priced Zaino and it's about $90 shipped for the basics (plus another couple bucks for Dawn if you don't have something similar).

 

[bradical]

zymol is a wax and zaino is a polymer polish. once i used zaino, i dont think i can ever go back to wax

the proper prep steps to wax or zaino are the same (i.e.. dawn wash, and possibly clay bar). once you do that, you can apply Z-2 right away and in one coat if you want. time to apply and dry is exactly the same as any wax ive used (maybe even faster because it is very easy to remove the reside compared to a lot of waxes).

best part is that it lasts a LONG time. my car beads water after 3 months like the day i applied it. when i waxed, it was started to break down after about 1.5 months and by 3 months it was streaking all over.

again...just my opinion here so try what you feel comfortable with. i used cleaner wax a couple of times before zaino and it was jsut fine...until i used zaino 8)

 

[FX Driver]

Been using P21s on my Porsche and FX but I am thinking of giving Zaino a try. I've seen some great pics.

 

[shajan]

My neighbour who owns a body shop swears by 3M hand glaze. He is going to get me some once this sh***y weather clears up.

Anybody have any experience with this stuff?

 

[contaygious]

anyone tried this stuff?

http://www.5starshine.com/press-coverage.html

i posted a link to it before but no one responded... seems really cool.

 

[liug]

Don't buy ZAINO!!!
you will get addicted~
You will suffer insomnia and end up Zaino your car at midnight till 3 am~~~ <---that's ME!!!

:lol: 8)

 

[FXLENT]

Zymol is $12-Zaino is $90. My Zymol shine lasts 3 months or so also. I keep it garaged in all weather. I love to see the FX shines so I usually don't wait 3 months to wax however.

 

[particlefx]

anyone tried this stuff?

http://www.5starshine.com/press-coverage.html

i posted a link to it before but no one responded... seems really cool.

I asked the 5 Star Shine people if they think their product is better than Zaino and they have not responded. I also asked Sal Zaino himself about what he thought about 5 Star Shine. Here is what he told me:

I've tested it and IMO it is too good to be true.... It was hard to use and had poor durability...

Regardless.... Teflon waxes are a joke, check this out:

Dupont several years ago released a press statment about their trade mark product Teflon. In a nutshell, they said the Teflon added nothing to waxes or polishes as Teflon can and will only bond to metal while heated to very high temps. Basically what they were doing was giving a disclaimer for all of the polished and waxes hitting the market making claim after claim about how superior their product was just because it was supposed to contain Teflon. This came out about the time the debacle about PTFE resins and the Slick 50 product that also turned out to be a big farce.

To point to some concrete evidence regarding Teflon. This comes from Professional Carwashing & Detailing magazine, January, 1989, page 110.

A direct quote:

My conclusion is based on the information I have gathered in the past year from representatives, lab technicians and chemists from many leading car care product companies, including DuPont, the maker of Teflon. According to G.R. Ansul of DuPont's Car Care Products Division, "The addition of a Teflon fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon fluorpolymer resins is beneficial in car waxes, and we have not seen data from other people that supports this position."

Ansul also notes that, "Unless Teflon is applied at 700 degrees F (371 degrees C), it is not a viable ingredient, and it is 100 percent useless in protecting the paint's finish."

As we can all see, DuPont answered this question once and for all in 1989, over 10 years ago! Let's use the advice of the manufacturer of Teflon that it is no good in a car wax (except for marketing reasons) and move on.

Also below is a customer post on 5 Star


Posted: 08-25-2003 06:49 PM Report | IP: Logged

Mike Phillips
Certified Car Crazy

Registered: May 2003
Location: Sunny Irvine, CA
Posts: 618
Status: OFFLINE

Hi RamAirV1,

I have their product, it's smeary and doesn't really do much for the paint.

I would agree about the hype.

The patents are real however, whether or not thier science works is another thing.

Since first trying the product, it has now gelled and probably will be impossible to get out of the bottle without cutting the bottle open.

If you type, Car Wax into http://www.google.com, you will see 5 Star Shine comes up first

This is no mistake, 5 Star Shine is more about selling products and services that get you good search engine rankings than it is about protection paint.

I also have the owner of 5 Star Shine's book, "Gurrila Marketing".

So there is more to this product than meets the eye, the more part is just not about polishing paint, it's about marketing.

Thus... the $70.00 a pop for the two products, they had to build in enough profit to pay out to their affiliates, sort of like MLM

Mike



Thank You,
Sal Zaino
(732)833-8800
http://www.zainobros.com

 

[contaygious]

hmm the videos seem real to me. check em out..

 

[dude009]

Zymol is $12-Zaino is $90.

That's very misleading. Sure a bottle of Zymol is $12. So is a bottle of Zaino! If you bought the entire Zymol package, it's gonna cost you closer to $90 just like Zaino.

zigzag: Check out all these opinions of various products...
http://www.epinions.com/auto-Care-All

 

[FX Driver]

shajan,

I use 3M Handglaze before applying P21s on my Porsche. I do this every 3rd or 4th wax. It works great and gives the car a deep wet look.

I get mine online, here are a couple of sources; http://www.properautocare.com/polish.html
http://www.autofanatics.com/

 

[RyanDS]

I just Zaino'd mine this weekend, and it looks great! I used to use the Meguir's 3 step process on my Porsche. I think I'll be Zainoing, though, from now on. I actually prefer the Zaino application process to waxing. It's nice to be able to do the whole car all at once as opposed to doing it in sections. And you can Zaino in the sun. Layering is nice as well. I've got three layers on now, and if I get a wild hair, I may add a few more this weekend. Although the 944 Turbo is going to get raging jealous. It has acquired a pretty good coat of dust since I bought the FX.

I'll probably continue to use Meguir's Step 1 cleaner periodically prior to Zainoing though. I don't think the clay takes off any more than the cleaner. And the cleaner is easier to use. I clayed about half the car, and then stopped cold and nearly threw-up when I noticed that it appeared to be marring the sh!t out of the paint. (And, yes, I followed Zaino's recommended lubrication process.) I definitely won't use the cleaner every time though -- maybe just once a year or more to remove any accumulated contamination and start again from the ground up.