i am not much of a waxing dude myself, but most people on this site seem to be using some kind of zaino thingy. so i may have to try it out shortly once the weather stabilize and the rain stops.zigzag5555 said:Hi all
I would like to wax my car. it is pretty new(one month) any suggestions for what kind of wax or polish to use? I was thinking Meguir's 3 step process.
1. Deep crystal cleaner
Any comments would be appreciated.
I asked the 5 Star Shine people if they think their product is better than Zaino and they have not responded. I also asked Sal Zaino himself about what he thought about 5 Star Shine. Here is what he told me:contaygious said:
Sal Zaino said:I've tested it and IMO it is too good to be true.... It was hard to use and had poor durability...
Regardless.... Teflon waxes are a joke, check this out:
Dupont several years ago released a press statment about their trade mark product Teflon. In a nutshell, they said the Teflon added nothing to waxes or polishes as Teflon can and will only bond to metal while heated to very high temps. Basically what they were doing was giving a disclaimer for all of the polished and waxes hitting the market making claim after claim about how superior their product was just because it was supposed to contain Teflon. This came out about the time the debacle about PTFE resins and the Slick 50 product that also turned out to be a big farce.
To point to some concrete evidence regarding Teflon. This comes from Professional Carwashing & Detailing magazine, January, 1989, page 110.
A direct quote:
My conclusion is based on the information I have gathered in the past year from representatives, lab technicians and chemists from many leading car care product companies, including DuPont, the maker of Teflon. According to G.R. Ansul of DuPont's Car Care Products Division, "The addition of a Teflon fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon fluorpolymer resins is beneficial in car waxes, and we have not seen data from other people that supports this position."
Ansul also notes that, "Unless Teflon is applied at 700 degrees F (371 degrees C), it is not a viable ingredient, and it is 100 percent useless in protecting the paint's finish."
As we can all see, DuPont answered this question once and for all in 1989, over 10 years ago! Let's use the advice of the manufacturer of Teflon that it is no good in a car wax (except for marketing reasons) and move on.
Also below is a customer post on 5 Star
Posted: 08-25-2003 06:49 PM Report | IP: Logged
Certified Car Crazy
Registered: May 2003
Location: Sunny Irvine, CA
I have their product, it's smeary and doesn't really do much for the paint.
I would agree about the hype.
The patents are real however, whether or not thier science works is another thing.
Since first trying the product, it has now gelled and probably will be impossible to get out of the bottle without cutting the bottle open.
If you type, Car Wax into http://www.google.com, you will see 5 Star Shine comes up first
This is no mistake, 5 Star Shine is more about selling products and services that get you good search engine rankings than it is about protection paint.
I also have the owner of 5 Star Shine's book, "Gurrila Marketing".
So there is more to this product than meets the eye, the more part is just not about polishing paint, it's about marketing.
Thus... the $70.00 a pop for the two products, they had to build in enough profit to pay out to their affiliates, sort of like MLM
That's very misleading. Sure a bottle of Zymol is $12. So is a bottle of Zaino! If you bought the entire Zymol package, it's gonna cost you closer to $90 just like Zaino.FXcellent said:Zymol is $12-Zaino is $90.