[pudicus]

http://netscape5.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid={40A4FE60-9FE7-4C04-B5C7-22EEB3113ACB}&siteid=netscape&dist=special

 

[mushutofu]

In san francisco premium gas is hitting 2.40 already

 

[pjo1966]

I've already decided that this will be my last guzzler. Next year will have a few Hybrids to choose from. By the time my lease is up, there will be a Hybrid waiting for me. The Highlander is going to have a Hybrid engine next year as well as a few Luxus models. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years every manufacturer has something to offer.

Even Costco gas is over $2/gallon.

 

[kcrudup]

It's already there, if you look hard enough. Last night at the last gas station at LAX before the rental car returns (surprise!) Full Serve Premium was the bend-me-over-and-do-me-hard price of $2.999/gal. What the ****'s going on? When I first got my FX in November, Costco 91 was $1.619 (in Lancaster- the price varies by market). It's now $2.099- I mean, didn't we win the Iraq war?

 

[GEAUX]

You know this does suck, but enjoy your ride.

If I wanted a hybrid(in which I do not, and will never) I would have purchased one.

Remember why you bought the FX, and enjoy it. Unfortunately, the gas price is out of our control.

Deep breaths gentlemen, Deep breaths.

 

[contaygious]

u guys see that lexus r330 hybrid? its on autospies.com

hybrid suvs are COMING!

 

[GEAUX]

u guys see that lexus r330 hybrid? its on autospies.com

hybrid suvs are COMING!

Thats a good thing. I am having a hard time looking at the varients on the market today.

 

[hartless]

$3!!!! ouch! Sometimes its good to be a farmboy. In Indianapolis we are paying $1.80 for Gas America 94 octane and I'm dreading when it hits $2.

I have to agree however that, fuel economy was not why I bought the FX, performance was, and even if it only got 5 miles per gallon I would still love it.

Nothing relaxes me better than when I walk out of work, turn the key, and hear the beautiful exhaust note. By the first corner I have forgotten my worries and I'm just Enjoying the drive.

Gas will always be cheap compared to a feeling like that.

 

[desualt]

but gasoline is already almost $4 a gallon!!...

at least here

 

[dinofx35]

Gas in the USA is already cheaper than in most parts of the world. On top of that, if you compare your monthly payment (or "monthly depreciation" if you paid cash ), property tax, insurance, etc., to your fuel costs, it's not a big deal.

 

[kcrudup]

if you compare your monthly payment, property tax, insurance, etc., to your fuel costs, it's not a big deal.

I wish! My gas costs are ~$400/mo.

 

[GTRPower]

Umm...

Gas prices in the US are heavily subsidised by the government.

Guess who pays the government?

In the end we end up paying for it one way or another.

 

[particlefx]

Umm...

Gas prices in the US are heavily subsidised by the government.

Guess who pays the government?

In the end we end up paying for it one way or another.

Not exactly true. In Europe, gas prices are far higher than in America because taxes on gas are much higher. In the US, taxes account for about 30-35% of the total price of gas. In England a gallon of gas cost $4.71 (in September 2000) with $3.40 going to taxes.

Maybe it depends on your definition of "subsidised".

 

[FromHereToInfiniti]

Particle is right...many countries have much higher taxes on fuel, there's no subsidy. You might be interested in this Dept of Energy site: http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/brochure/oil_gas/primer/primer.htm

This site shows a nice comparison of premium gas prices around the world...U.S. pays .77 of the world average. Notice how the tax happy Europeans pay much more than most of the world. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ene_gas_pri

 

[Beryllium45]

heheh

If I wanted a hybrid(in which I do not, and will never) I would have purchased one.

Never Say Never!

Hybrid sports cars and sport suv's are right around the corner. Electric motors = INSTANT TORQUE. You will see future sports cars equipped with "in-wheel" electric motors, not just for economy, but for instantaneous torque-on-demand at each wheel. Hybrid technology can improve performance.

Here are some revealing specs from the new Toyota Prius.

Electric Motor
Motor type Permanent magnet AC synchronous motor
Power output 67 hp @ 1,200-1,540 rpm (50 kW @ 1,200-1,540 rpm)
Torque 295 lb.-ft. @ 0-1,200 rpm (400 N-m @ 0-1,200 rpm)
Voltage 500V maximum

295 lb-ft at 0 RPMS. Doesnt mean the Prius is "fast" - but the implications for electric/gasoline sport-applications are evident.

 

[kcrudup]

Re: heheh

Doesnt mean the Prius is "fast"

It's not "FX fast", but I have a cow-orker with a Prius, and I was quite surprised at how capable that car was.

 

[GEAUX]

Re: heheh

If I wanted a hybrid(in which I do not, and will never) I would have purchased one.

Never Say Never!

Hybrid sports cars and sport suv's are right around the corner. Electric motors = INSTANT TORQUE. You will see future sports cars equipped with "in-wheel" electric motors, not just for economy, but for instantaneous torque-on-demand at each wheel. Hybrid technology can improve performance.

Here are some revealing specs from the new Toyota Prius.

Electric Motor
Motor type Permanent magnet AC synchronous motor
Power output 67 hp @ 1,200-1,540 rpm (50 kW @ 1,200-1,540 rpm)
Torque 295 lb.-ft. @ 0-1,200 rpm (400 N-m @ 0-1,200 rpm)
Voltage 500V maximum

295 lb-ft at 0 RPMS. Doesnt mean the Prius is "fast" - but the implications for electric/gasoline sport-applications are evident.

I think I have the biggest problem with the esthetics of the cars. Just my opinion, but I think the Prius is one of the three ugliest cars on the road. Aztec and Element being number one and two. (non hybrid of course-that really helps my argument right).

In all seriousness, it might be a day that I have no choice, but for now, I will stick to my stable. I can go get in my FX, my Tahoe, or my Z06.

V8 BABY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FromHereToInfiniti]

Re: heheh

I have a cow-orker

But how does the cow feel about that? :mrgreen:
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/c/cow_orker.html

Haven't seen that term since my days of lurking in alt.sysadmin.recovery (a.k.a. The Scary Devil Monastery)....now, if you tell me you know what a LART is (without looking it up), I might be even more more impressed :wink:
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/l/LART.html

 

[Beryllium45]

Another Hybrid

Lexus RX400H (hybrid RX300). A 4.0 V8 Hybrid, faster than the RX300, and close to twice the MPG.

V8 BABY!

 

[contaygious]

yeah but it looks like this: