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 Post subject: Aftermarket gauge discussion
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:47 pm 
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So my research into gauges has just begun and I thought it would be good to actually have a thread that talks about all the different systems out there and what the most common monitoring displays should have. I posted this same thread other forums and so far have not had much response.

Universal, expandable setups that have been suggested:

http://www.zeitronix.com/

http://www.hksusa.com/products/more.asp?id=3471

http://www.egauges.com/Defi/dp_top.html

I have identified the items that I want to monitor but I am still not sure where the gauges will be mounted and what they will look like. I'm thinking SMALL. If anybody has links to small gauges - from 1 inch to 1.5 inch digital displays - please post up. I think I'm leaning towards individual gauges rather than a universal display. Interested in but don't have to include all of the following:

Oil pressure
Water Temperature
A/F
Boost
Transmission temp

I have seen some gauges that display multiple items as well - with the ability to display of two or three of the items above on one gauge all at once or selectable with a button.

Here is my shop's recommendation, after I told him I wanted to pick only two gauges:

"AF gauges are nice but only truly useful under WOT for critical monitoring, otherwise they are always in a state of flux. Oil pressure and water temp is always useful data especially when the motor is cold - to monitor oil pressure vs. motor rpm. So when limited to two and knowing the Haltech sees its own wide-band, I prioritize two gauges differently.

The zeitronix display is likely a OBDII pass through tool that displays that data then pipes in it's own wide-band. Currently the Haltech will see all of it's own sensors which can be viewed in the software (read: your laptop), the next option from Haltech is they use Racepack and AIM dash setups which plug in native to the Haltech ECU. These are far from a simple gauge though and are generally meant to replace everything in a car to act as a new digital dash.

This all being said, once Haltech finds a new maker for there gauges themselves (used to be Nordschief or something like that but that went under about a year ago), you'll be able to buy a standalone gauge and wick the signal from your Haltech wide-band so that the same sensor feeds the standalone gauge and the Haltech ecu."

I have seen the Racepack display before and it is sweet, but doesn't fit with the theme of the interior. I want it to look like it belongs there. Here are two options from Racepack:

http://www.racepak.com/Components/Dash_Compare.php

http://www.aimsports.com/auto/index.html

Really I'm wide open to anything as long as the new gauges look like they belong. I'd consider mounting anywhere - on the roof liner, dash, on the console, hidden, pop-up, etc. Only thing that is non-negotiable is the aesthetic. They MUST match the amber OE gauges or interior.

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket gauge discussion
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:10 pm 
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I thought digital gauges were always too slow for this sort of application? Guess they've made a lot of progress, and I assume you DON'T want the 3 gauge cluster on the pillar thing going on?

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket gauge discussion
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:17 pm 
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I'm not totally opposed to the pillar mounts, but like I said I wanted the gauges small. To me that most likely means a custom pillar mount from composite or fiberglass. If I am going through that much trouble just for 2-4 gauges, I feel like they could be better integrated. Maybe on top of the cluster hood? Or on an empty space either on top of or on the front of the dashboard?

I prefer digital because I want to interpret at a glance and not have to track a needle. I sort of envision 2-4 small amber LED displays. Each one would show a single number, which is why I want small gauges. A 1.5" gauge could still display a pretty large number especially when lit up. Not sure that's even an option but I gotta believe they are out there somewhere. I hadn't heard they were any faster or slower - I'll have to read up.

I think I'm starting to lean away from an inclusive system that requires a screen interface. It's more than I really need or want to use.

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket gauge discussion
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jumbosrule wrote:
If I am going through that much trouble just for 2-4 gauges, I feel like they could be better integrated. Maybe on top of the cluster hood? Or on an empty space either on top of or on the front of the dashboard?

You could probably replace the area where your center channel speaker currently occupies... most people that upgrade their stereo's cut the wires to the center anyways so it's not very important... I can see a VERY nice gauge setup mounted there... And you could either use the 2-4 gauge set up there in a custom cluster or go with the all-in-one screen interface...

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket gauge discussion
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:47 pm 
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Ha! Great minds think alike!!! I got that idea from here on the org and discussed it over on IS:

http://www.infinitiscene.com/forum/show ... ostcount=8

http://www.infinitiscene.com/forum/show ... stcount=10

That's exactly what I am thinking. Haven't really looked into that area or what kind of space is available. If anybody has photos of the center speaker removed... postem up!

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